A good story contains conflicts to keep the reader reading. Three types of conflict frequently found in literature are: Examples Character against Character (Ponyboy's conflict with older brother Darry) Character against Nature (Conflict in survivor stories like Hatchet) Character against Self (Conflict when a character must choose between right and wrong)
Choose one conflict in The Hobbit, and explain how Tolkien uses it to move the story forward. Don't forget to cite page number when appropriate.
Hobbit Question 2 March
Douglas Rd8 March 3, 2011 One conflict I found in the Hobbit was Bilbo's Took side of him versus his hobbit side. This isThese are Bilbo's personalities fighting to get the better of Bilbo. Early in the beginning, Bilbo must choose whether or not he wants to join the quest, and his Took side prevailed, even though his Hobbit side made him pass out even on the thought of adventure, and he went on this quest.(pg.6-30) Giant RUN ON This moved the story onwards to a part where the dwarves are captured by goblins and Bilbo is separated from them. He finds courage in his Took side while his hobbit side says to stay where he is. He explores and finds a ring and escapes. This is how the conflict between Bilbo Baggin's Took and Hobbit side of him moves the story along. W I love that you chose that conflict. I would prefer that you use it for just one of the decisions he must make and go more in depth. For example, you say the Took side prevailed and he went on the adventure. Did it really? Did his Took side say yes, or was he just as surprised as he could be that he was on the adventure?? ~Mrs. Best
Adam Morris
Reading 6
March 4,2011
Douglas this is a really good conflict to start off with. The reason for that is that if the regular hobbit side won the entire story would have ended right there. Although It would have been nice to name the type of conflict this was. You could have even added some detail to it by maybe saying that all the overwhelming thought of adventure made Bilbo pass out right there on the floor. He did say this. I am not looking for you to critque the things people write. Just agree or disagree. Also you could have also added some detail on how Bilbo got the ring because that is a important part of the story. This was just some feedback though I still totally agree that this was a very important conflict in the book.
Michael Walton
Reading-6
3-4-11
Great answer Douglas! That was a conflict that I personally never thought of.
I really thought that was a very creative conflict that many kids wouldn't
have thought of. On the other hand I thought you could have been able to
state what type of conflict this was. I think that this is a great response.
Great job!
I talked about a character to character conflict between Gollum and
Bilbo. I absolutley loved the part where they got into the riddle war, it was
serious and humerous at the same time.
~Michael Walton
Hobbit Question 2 March 4, 2011 In your own words, describe what happens next to Bilbo and the dwarves in the forest.
Douglas Rd8
March 4, 2011 After Bilbo surprises the dwarves, they move on away from the mountain into the nearby forest. They are walknig along, trying to get as far as they can away from the goblins. In the forest they stumble upon a pack of wargs, wolf like creatures siding with the goblins, and have to climb up into the treees to avoid getting killed. when they are up in the trees they realize soon that the goblins are coming because the wargs had a meeting with them and the goblins can climb and cut trees. Gandalf summons fire from his mystical powers and fires it at the wargs, they hate fire, and the wargs run away howling in fear. The group see the goblins coming and they are soon there. The goblins had an idea of how to defeat Thorin and his group. They used the fire, that is still burning, that Gandalf fired. The goblins spread the fire to surround the trees to burn the group. High in the sky, the eagles where looking to see what all the commotion was about down on the ground. Eagles are the sworn enemy of Goblins, and as soon as they saw the goblins, they quickly helped Thorin and his comrades. They rescued them from the trees and flew them to safety Good description. In the future, please don't use this color. Very hard to read for me. ~Mrs. Best The Hobbit Discussion Questions Hobbit Question 3 March 20, 2011
When Gandolf first visits Bilbo, looking for someone to share in an adventure, Bilbo tells Gandalf that hobbits are
"...plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner! I can't think what anybody sees in them "(7).
The dwarves are not quite sure that Bilbo will be able to handle the adventures at all, and Bilbo himself wonders how he found himself at The Green Dragon Inn, riding a pony away from Hobbiton. But now, Bilbo has become the unspoken leader of the party. Without Bilbo, the dwarves would never have made it to Lonely Mountain.
Is an adventure something that happens to us or how we react to what happens? Often in life, adventures are not as obvious as killing giant spiders or escaping from an Elven king's dungeon. Sometimes adventures are made out of ordinary days and ordinary events, with ordinary people who become the heroes. You may not even realize you've been in an adventure until after it's over!
Think about the times you have learned a new skill, moved, changed schools, competed in sports, welcomed a new pet, discovered a new friend, performed in front of an audience, or had a terrifying fall. These events are adventures in process. Have you grown or changed from your experience with any of these situations, as Bilbo grew and changed because of his adventure with the dwarves? Recall a time when something happened to cause you to grow and change in a positive way. Respond on your wiki page.
March 22, 2011
Douglas Kellner
Reading 8
I believe adventure is something that we react to because in the hobbit The Hobbit the adventure they go on is a reaction to Smaug taking their gold. Also, when Bilbo destroys the giant spiders, he just did it as a reaction to save himself and his friends. In real life, when things happen, such as a fire, we react and go on an adventure to stop the fire. We become heroes out of an ordinary occurrence.
In my life, an adventure I had was having my appendix taken out. It was the one of the most painful things I have ever endured. What I have learned from it is to never complain about pain or sickness; the exact opposite of what I was before. Before this I complained about being sick almost all the time; just to get out of school. I admit I was a wimp when it came to stuff I didn't want to do. I would always try to get out of having to do it. I was also a wimp when it came to just an ounce of pain; almost anything that knocked me off balance and on the ground, "hurt." Ever since those two days of horrendous pain, I knew nothing was worse. I have changed from being kinda wimpy, I agree, to more robust and able to take things.
Another thing that this adventure changed for me was my look on death. The surgery I had was very important because if the doctors had not done it when they did, my appendix would have ruptured and I would have died. It makes me look at death as something that can happen very quickly and it makes me value my life more than before.
This is how my adventure changed me. ~ This is a great adventure, and you certainly have grown from it. But you think every adventure is just a reaction? I am not sure about that. I don't think they HAD to go to get the gold back, but they DECIDED to try. ~Mrs. Best
Hobbit Question 4 March 29, 2011
If Thorin could have lived, do you think he would have regretted his greed? What do you think Tolkien is trying to teach us about material wealth by Thorin's death? In your response, site textual evidence to support your response. Use page numbers too. Yes, if Thorin could have lived I think he would regret his greed because all of the people who he didn't want to share with still aided him when he needed help and they even fought a war with him. Tolkien is is trying to teach us that material things are nothing and make the world not the greatest place. "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."(290) Also people who value material things more than life and everything else will probably not come to a good end. Such as the Sack-Villes Baggins, if they valued Bilbo higher than the material house, they would probably have a better relationship. Material things often drive us to do bad things; lust for example, if you lust for gold and nothing else it will drive you to make poor decisons. In short, material things should not be on the top of our things we need list. ~ I love the quote! That is so true! Mrs. Best
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The Hobbit Discussion Questions
Question March 2, 2011
A good story contains conflicts to keep the reader reading. Three types of conflict frequently found in literature are:
Examples
Character against Character (Ponyboy's conflict with older brother Darry)
Character against Nature (Conflict in survivor stories like Hatchet)
Character against Self (Conflict when a character must choose between right and wrong)
Choose one conflict in The Hobbit, and explain how Tolkien uses it to move the story forward. Don't forget to cite page number when appropriate.
Hobbit Question 2 March
Douglas Rd8
March 3, 2011
One conflict I found in the Hobbit was Bilbo's Took side of him versus his hobbit side. This isThese are Bilbo's personalities fighting to get the better of Bilbo. Early in the beginning, Bilbo must choose whether or not he wants to join the quest, and his Took side prevailed, even though his Hobbit side made him pass out even on the thought of adventure, and he went on this quest.(pg.6-30) Giant RUN ON This moved the story onwards to a part where the dwarves are captured by goblins and Bilbo is separated from them. He finds courage in his Took side while his hobbit side says to stay where he is. He explores and finds a ring and escapes. This is how the conflict between Bilbo Baggin's Took and Hobbit side of him moves the story along. W I love that you chose that conflict. I would prefer that you use it for just one of the decisions he must make and go more in depth. For example, you say the Took side prevailed and he went on the adventure. Did it really? Did his Took side say yes, or was he just as surprised as he could be that he was on the adventure?? ~Mrs. Best
Adam Morris
Reading 6
March 4,2011
Douglas this is a really good conflict to start off with. The reason for that is that if the regular hobbit side won the entire story would have ended right there. Although It would have been nice to name the type of conflict this was. You could have even added some detail to it by maybe saying that all the overwhelming thought of adventure made Bilbo pass out right there on the floor. He did say this. I am not looking for you to critque the things people write. Just agree or disagree. Also you could have also added some detail on how Bilbo got the ring because that is a important part of the story. This was just some feedback though I still totally agree that this was a very important conflict in the book.
Michael Walton
Reading-6
3-4-11
Great answer Douglas! That was a conflict that I personally never thought of.
I really thought that was a very creative conflict that many kids wouldn't
have thought of. On the other hand I thought you could have been able to
state what type of conflict this was. I think that this is a great response.
Great job!
I talked about a character to character conflict between Gollum and
Bilbo. I absolutley loved the part where they got into the riddle war, it was
serious and humerous at the same time.
~Michael Walton
Hobbit Question 2
March 4, 2011
In your own words, describe what happens next to Bilbo and the dwarves in the forest.
Douglas Rd8
March 4, 2011
After Bilbo surprises the dwarves, they move on away from the mountain into the nearby forest. They are walknig along, trying to get as far as they can away from the goblins. In the forest they stumble upon a pack of wargs, wolf like creatures siding with the goblins, and have to climb up into the treees to avoid getting killed. when they are up in the trees they realize soon that the goblins are coming because the wargs had a meeting with them and the goblins can climb and cut trees. Gandalf summons fire from his mystical powers and fires it at the wargs, they hate fire, and the wargs run away howling in fear. The group see the goblins coming and they are soon there. The goblins had an idea of how to defeat Thorin and his group. They used the fire, that is still burning, that Gandalf fired. The goblins spread the fire to surround the trees to burn the group. High in the sky, the eagles where looking to see what all the commotion was about down on the ground. Eagles are the sworn enemy of Goblins, and as soon as they saw the goblins, they quickly helped Thorin and his comrades. They rescued them from the trees and flew them to safety Good description. In the future, please don't use this color. Very hard to read for me. ~Mrs. Best
The Hobbit Discussion Questions
Hobbit Question 3
March 20, 2011
When Gandolf first visits Bilbo, looking for someone to share in an adventure, Bilbo tells Gandalf that hobbits are
"...plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner! I can't think what anybody sees in them "(7).
The dwarves are not quite sure that Bilbo will be able to handle the adventures at all, and Bilbo himself wonders how he found himself at The Green Dragon Inn, riding a pony away from Hobbiton. But now, Bilbo has become the unspoken leader of the party. Without Bilbo, the dwarves would never have made it to Lonely Mountain.
Is an adventure something that happens to us or how we react to what happens? Often in life, adventures are not as obvious as killing giant spiders or escaping from an Elven king's dungeon. Sometimes adventures are made out of ordinary days and ordinary events, with ordinary people who become the heroes. You may not even realize you've been in an adventure until after it's over!
Think about the times you have learned a new skill, moved, changed schools, competed in sports, welcomed a new pet, discovered a new friend, performed in front of an audience, or had a terrifying fall. These events are adventures in process. Have you grown or changed from your experience with any of these situations, as Bilbo grew and changed because of his adventure with the dwarves? Recall a time when something happened to cause you to grow and change in a positive way. Respond on your wiki page.
March 22, 2011
Douglas Kellner
Reading 8
I believe adventure is something that we react to because in the hobbit The Hobbit the adventure they go on is a reaction to Smaug taking their gold. Also, when Bilbo destroys the giant spiders, he just did it as a reaction to save himself and his friends. In real life, when things happen, such as a fire, we react and go on an adventure to stop the fire. We become heroes out of an ordinary occurrence.
In my life, an adventure I had was having my appendix taken out. It was the one of the most painful things I have ever endured. What I have learned from it is to never complain about pain or sickness; the exact opposite of what I was before. Before this I complained about being sick almost all the time; just to get out of school. I admit I was a wimp when it came to stuff I didn't want to do. I would always try to get out of having to do it. I was also a wimp when it came to just an ounce of pain; almost anything that knocked me off balance and on the ground, "hurt." Ever since those two days of horrendous pain, I knew nothing was worse. I have changed from being kinda wimpy, I agree, to more robust and able to take things.
Another thing that this adventure changed for me was my look on death. The surgery I had was very important because if the doctors had not done it when they did, my appendix would have ruptured and I would have died. It makes me look at death as something that can happen very quickly and it makes me value my life more than before.
This is how my adventure changed me. ~ This is a great adventure, and you certainly have grown from it. But you think every adventure is just a reaction? I am not sure about that. I don't think they HAD to go to get the gold back, but they DECIDED to try. ~Mrs. Best
Hobbit Question 4 March 29, 2011
If Thorin could have lived, do you think he would have regretted his greed? What do you think Tolkien is trying to teach us about material wealth by Thorin's death? In your response, site textual evidence to support your response. Use page numbers too.
Yes, if Thorin could have lived I think he would regret his greed because all of the people who he didn't want to share with still aided him when he needed help and they even fought a war with him. Tolkien is is trying to teach us that material things are nothing and make the world not the greatest place. "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."(290) Also people who value material things more than life and everything else will probably not come to a good end. Such as the Sack-Villes Baggins, if they valued Bilbo higher than the material house, they would probably have a better relationship. Material things often drive us to do bad things; lust for example, if you lust for gold and nothing else it will drive you to make poor decisons. In short, material things should not be on the top of our things we need list. ~ I love the quote! That is so true! Mrs. Best